{"id":20830,"date":"2025-06-10T04:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-06-10T02:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thebrokernews.ch\/?p=20830"},"modified":"2025-06-09T13:39:17","modified_gmt":"2025-06-09T11:39:17","slug":"thebrokernews-podcast-episode-9-with-brigitte-roy-and-thomas-gassenbauer-from-cognizant-on-new-leadership-qualities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.thebrokernews.ch\/en\/thebrokernews-podcast-episode-9-with-brigitte-roy-and-thomas-gassenbauer-from-cognizant-on-new-leadership-qualities\/","title":{"rendered":"thebrokernews Podcast Episode 9: With Brigitte Roy and Thomas Gassenbauer from Cognizant on new leadership qualities"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"ccfic\"><span class=\"ccfic-text\">thebrokernews Podcast Episode 9: What does Brigitte Roy think about new leadership qualities.<\/span><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>From military discipline to empathy in management: a podcast discussion with Thomas Gassenbauer and Brigitte Roy about new leadership qualities, personal development and the value of authentic relationships in professional life.<\/strong> <strong>Find out how modern leadership models are changing the world of work with curiosity and compassion.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At lofty heights above Zurich, in the Prime Tower, <a href=\"http:\/\/linkedin.com\/in\/thomasgassenbauer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Thomas Gassenbauer<\/a>, Country Manager of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cognizant.com\/ch\/de\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cognizant Switzerland<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/linkedin.com\/in\/brigitte-r-8899b12\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Brigitte Roy<\/a>, strategist for partnerships and passionate behavioral scientist, reflect on the question: What does leadership mean today?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: EP 9. Leadership, Diversity &amp; the Future of Work \u2013 Featuring Cognizants Brigitte Roy and Thomas Gassenbauer\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/5mWQ8cmSqlp0etwJLnRmqI?si=q-mpFq4MTLatIhYCCGcXdw&#038;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>From decision-maker to enabler<\/strong><\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cLeadership is not a title, but a responsibility,\u201d says Thomas Gassenbauer. For him, the most important task of a manager is to create the framework in which others can be successful. Decisions should not be centralized, but delegated to where there is proximity to the customer.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>His guiding principle: servant leadership. A term that he describes with a wink as a \u201cbuzzword\u201d, but fills with a clear attitude: \u201cIf you as a manager don&#8217;t help your people to become better, you are just overhead.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Authenticity instead of authority<\/strong><\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>Brigitte Roy describes her personal development as an interplay between adaptation and liberation: from the strict dress code of the financial world to the open culture of the tech industry. As a young manager, she adapted her appearance to signal authority &#8211; today she knows: \u201cI come across most credibly when I am myself.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Her management style today is characterized by humility and openness: \u201cYou have to accept that you don&#8217;t know everything &#8211; and that that&#8217;s okay.\u201d This attitude makes it possible to grow together with the team and create space for creativity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Well-being as a management task<\/strong><\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>Both emphasize how central the topic of wellbeing is to good leadership. Gassenbauer has developed a three-pillar model: Work, social environment and self-care. \u201cEspecially in stressful times, you often come last,\u201d he says. This makes it all the more important to take routines for sleep, exercise and relaxation seriously.   <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Roy adds: \u201cI manage my energy in the long term &#8211; mentally and physically. Creative tasks give me strength.\u201d Being authentic at work &#8211; as a cook, a runner, a gamer, a parent, a foreigner, etc. &#8211; is not a risk, but a gift for herself and the team.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Learning from the next generation<\/strong><\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>The conversation reveals a great openness towards younger colleagues. \u201cWe have to listen to them,\u201d says Roy. \u201cEven younger, because they bring different perspectives, different priorities.\u201d Gassenbauer adds: \u201cSometimes people ask me: what if we invest in them and they leave? I then ask back: What if we don&#8217;t and they stay?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both are actively involved in promoting young talent through internal programs, but also through involvement in mentoring and educational initiatives. It is particularly important to allay young people&#8217;s fears that they have not yet found their path. Careers don&#8217;t have to be linear &#8211; according to Roy, they can be \u201cspiral-shaped\u201d: from interest to interest, always growing.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>A new culture of leadership<\/strong><\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>What Thomas Gassenbauer and Brigitte Roy have in common is the conviction that leadership in the future will have less to do with control and more to do with relationships. With the courage to be human. With the willingness to listen, to learn and to shape things together.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cLeadership doesn&#8217;t start with power,\u201d says Gassenbauer. \u201cIt starts with responsibility.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Binci Heeb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Listen to and read <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thebrokernews.ch\/en\/category\/podcasts-en\/\">our other podcasts<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From military discipline to empathy in management: a podcast discussion with Thomas Gassenbauer and Brigitte Roy about new leadership qualities, personal development and the value of authentic relationships in professional life. Find out how modern leadership models are changing the world of work with curiosity and compassion. 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